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CIUS conference audio (Part 16 of 16) <br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />What structure? (JPH)<br />Partnerships necessary with Saskatoon and Winnipeg (the Ukrainian centers). Apply for grants in different provinces. We should strike an initiative group. (Jars Balan)<br />We really need to do a much more thorough review of what has been done. The search can be expanded by volunteer labor. (Frances Swyripa)<br />It’s a good idea to get started. Start to show what you will do differently. A quick and easy way to start is to start a website for the project. That way info you do have gets immediately posted. Thomas Nahachewsky’s database is a good place to start. Pilot project will need to concentrate on the new stuff – the training, etc. The project has to decide new material and/or new material. (Marusia Petryshyn)<br />All projects start with an idea. You need a few people – half a dozen at the most. Go slow with an idea. Start in Alberta. Wait for the others. Collect the books. Contact architects, painters. Eventually you also need money. We should contact Teresa, the daughter of Anna Baran. (Peter Savaryn)<br />Hard thoughts: What you do, you do. The rest is just talk. (Nick Ochotta)<br />Establish technical committee. (Ostap Skrypnyk)<br />John Lehr and Ed Ledohowski decided to form a Manitoba Working Group or contact group. Keep everyone aware. Things could be done once we get the technical standards. (Ed Ledohowski)<br />Have the pilot project also collect existing materials. (Marusia Petryshyn)<br />A low tech manual of instruction would be worth developing even now. A preliminary form. Something in hard form. The Manitoba people could produce one fairly quickly. (Stella Hryniuk)<br />What are the legal requirements for putting stuff on web, on databases? Coordinating effort should deal with these issues. (Thomas Nahachewsky)<br />Worried about the scope of the project. Terms of reference. Parish life? List of priests? We can get excited about social history, etc., but it may be too much. First committee needs to set up the terms of reference. (Ostap Skrypnyk)<br />What is the technical architecture of the project? This is not a step-by-step project, but something done in parallel. Lets move and things should come together into a master plan. (Bohdan Hrynyshyn)<br />We will need some official permission/blessing from the consistories to help us, to be partners in reaching the community. (Roman Yereniuk)<br />Archives and other institutions would probably be happy to give us permissions when we provide money and manpower? (Frances Swyripa) We should offer training not only to students but volunteers. (Brian Cherwick)<br />Put up links to the websites that we had today, put up the PowerPoint presentations, Frances’ survey, etc. right from today. (Anne-Marie Decore)<br />In point form:<br />•Obtain blessings of ecclesiastical authorities<br />•Formation of initiative group based in Edmonton/CIUS<br />•Preliminary database of existing materials, projects, archival sources, publications<br />•Establish website for project, chat room, with blog, links to existing sources<br />•Apply for U of A grant<br />•Conduct pilot project<br />•Develop questionnaire/template for gathering material<br />•Develop training program for fieldworkers – students and volunteers<br />•Develop training program for fieldworkers – students and volunteers<br />•Identify potential partners, repositories<br />•Establish technical committee – architecture of database<br />•Establish provincial working groups<br />•Develop manual for local congregations/groups (low tech handbook)<br />•Need for legal direction/copyright advice<br />•Establish terms of reference defining scope of the project, its short-term and long-term objectives<br />•Need to work on parallel thrusts<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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Part 15: Customized Database for Church-Related Digital Photographs
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 15 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Churches are not just buildings – they are also people.<br />He is very enthusiastic about churches. He’s prepared an internet database. Admires Ed Ledohowski’s site.<br />The evolution of his database. He has documented over 1200 churches in the prairie provinces. The public would log on differently than a controlled researcher. The database has to be searchable. He can search by date of construction, for example. A wiki<br />model. Photos over time. Searchable by area, by architectural features (number of domes, e.g.), name of church.<br />Use subcommittees, say church architecture subcommittee, cemetery subcommittee, etc. to develop the kind of information to collect.<br />Researchers should carry a scanner. People will bring out documents, photos, etc.<br />Example of how much a single shot of the interior can tell us. And then by comparison with later photos. Dump as much in the database as possible and let the researchers play. We can do this website right now. In short order.<br />Position of cemetery in relation to the church.<br />5:00-6:00: Wrap-Up Discussion and Brain-Storming<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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Part 14: Digital Databases: Examples and Sources of Funding
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 14 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br /></span>hard copy (printouts from web)<br />Interaction of content and digital development – something that needs to be worked out. Various scholarly disciplines (religious studies, history, art history, musicology, folklore, geography, sociology, ethnic studies, anthropology, architecture), tourism, politics. Librarians and curators will be helpful in developing classifications, subject areas, categories. They have experience in this. Definition of categories will be iterative. Inclusion of disciplines has to be thought out. Think about who your users will be and purposes (research, teaching). You will need a searchable database, not just browsable. If a preservation project, how would a museum deal with it? Take into account the experience of the UCHV. See their lists, procedures. As the content becomes clearer, it will require thinking about the digital end. Clarify what users will want, and how can they access the information they want most effectively? Use of “shopping carts.” You have to figure what is in and what is out (film, photos, etc.). Management – not a project so big that it can’t be done. It has to be sculpted, having firm criteria of what is included, what is not. Clarify site objectives, scope. Possible to start with a process website – who’s involved, results of this conference. Perhaps a need for a wiki site.<br />Financing: federal govt (Canada Heritage Applied Research), Telus New Media Learning Fund, Telus foundation. Because it’s an interprovincial plan it should be eligible for various funding. Multicultural program, no set deadlines. Community Memories program. Gateway Fund. Summer student fund. Heritage Community foundation (managed by Nena Jocic).<br />Websites that have churches – the Manitoba project is good. Leopolis.<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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Part 13: Announcements by John-Paul Himka
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Part 12: Open Discussion Directed by Frances Swyripa
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 12 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Change of chair because JPH wanted to continue writing up the discussion.<br />Need to do a survey of what’s already out there. (Ostap Skrypnyk)<br />Churches were torn down, closed, burned down. Catholic church wants to preserve heritage and identity. But it comes down to priorities. From the church’s point of view, the parish community is what is to be served. Sometimes in these small communities, fixing up the church takes up too much time and energy, limiting their faith time. The church is worried about the salvation of the community. The building should be for the community, not the other way around. Sometimes only 5 people at a service, sometimes only 1. The Church would like to have a foundation that would have a lot of money and preserve all the churches, but there is no such thing now. It is also important to preserve the heritage. The minutes of meetings and bills would provide valuable information (minute books and financial records). Clergy are an important source. They go out there, perform services, visit the cemeteries. Metropolitan Lawrence also has many photos and videos of his visits – parishioners give him copies. Now he is being given DVDs of services. Old liturgical services are important. Brazil has a similar experience, though much harder. Brazilians have different carols. Different variants of music. Comparative angles. (Metropolitan Lawrence)<br />Putting too much info on the web could raise security issues. (Oksana) We could restrict access. (Bohdan Hrynyshyn)<br />Need to collect contact information. Not easy at all. In some cases the only person who is in anyway responsible might be the German farmer next door who cuts the grass. Contacts are aging – he reads the obituaries to see if the guys who opened the churches haven’t passed away. (Jars Balan)<br />We tried to record everything in full complexity. It’s too much even for students. We have to work on two levels – a research/archival tier which needs a full database and a public level that has been processed by scholars. (Natalka Kononenko)<br />From Regina. Has a bit of a plan of his own and is looking to merge projects. His project coming from the (Ukrainian Orthodox) church out rather than from scholars. Already when he first began to be interested in these things, he saw ten-inch trees on cemeteries. He would like more technical help, advice about proper documentation. It would be good to be part of a larger, directed project. Not just students but retired professional people. Importance of volunteers. How do we coordinate? avoid duplication? There needs to be some kind of coordinating body laying out a plan of action. Needed: determining the tools, assisting in training. (Yaroslav Lozowchuk)<br />She remembers how the community was split over saving the Portage la Prairie church. Diocese should help with conflict resolution. The best contacts, in her experience, are old women. Excellent materials in Ukraine – archives of Sheptytsky. Archives of Sister Servants also in Ukraine. (Stella Hryniuk)<br />This is a project in lieu of preservation. But many conversations go back to physical preservation. Visual? or also archival? documentation? thorough? or documentation restricted to visual culture. (Frances Swyripa)<br />We need a committee with a representative from each area. Digital storage is a very difficult issue right now. Shortages of digital storage at the U of A. Not just buying, but upkeep, back up. (Natalka Kononenko)<br />We should restrict ourselves to digital, not materials. We can go beyond the university for cheap storage. (Bohdan Hrynyshyn)<br />Need to go through church boards. 6-7 of these generally run with one clergyman so you can have a meeting with reps and the clergyman. Have one team going in, or risk more distrust. (Sylvia Chinery)<br />Her experience – people demanded to be included in the project (historic buildings in 1970s project). (Frances Swyripa)<br />Every medium will have issues. You have to plan resources for update and maintenance of data. Otherwise you will lose things one way or another. Need to plan for that. (Lee Ramsdell)<br />4:00-5:00: Technical Aspects, Part 2<br /></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 10: Technical and Photographic Aspects
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<p><span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 10 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /></span><br />Google Maps: Byzantine Rite Churches in Alberta. We can use a GPS unit to get exact coordinates. Google Maps gives directions. Roughly 92 GC churches, 74 Ukrainian Orthodox, 24 OCA, 22 Russian Orthodox in Alberta. You can zoom in on Google Maps.<br />Now most signs give English-only names. This poses some problems.<br />Likes to shoot in natural light. He has them shut off all artificial light.<br />He uses 2 dpi for the web. He shoots in RAW format. He does huge pictures – they could be poster size. Storage is now cheap, about a dollar a gig.<br />High resolution aerial photographs of UCHV, with churches marked by Google Map.<br />Importance of good documentation.<br />Spasa Moskalyk, parish founded 1902, church 1924. In bad condition. Wonderful acoustics (someone was playing tsymbaly when he visited). Only the bell tower has been repaired.<br />Weather and lighting: the working season is April-September. Manual setting. High resolution (300+ dpi). Variety of lenses.<br />Limited knowledge of local history, no information in the public domain, disappearance of Ukrainian language. Absence of Ukrainian culture (esp. vyshyvani rushnyky).<br />Single repository that can be accessed from everywhere in the world. Model of information structure. Structure attributes. Architecture model “web cloud.” E-document storage, databases, website, administrative budget.<br />Benefits – documentation.<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span></p>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 9: Building on and Learning from What's Been Done (discussion)
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<p><span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 9 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Directed by Frances Swyripa<br /><br /></span>Ed Ledohowski also knows an art photographer from Massachusetts who has been taking the churches. Looking for a repository for his work.<br />Faith vs. heritage. Funding – can we get the same today? Manageability, duplication. (Frances Swyripa)<br />Modeling a project the way we did made it possible to include volunteers. This is a project with time running out. People are dying, losing their memories. Maybe there’s a 10-year window to do this. (Stella Hryniuk)<br />The students had a guidebook on how to take the photographs, in what order. They had also black velvet for photographing objects. (Roman Yereniuk)<br />Set up a field school in connection with the Folklore Center to work on this project. They would get training in field methodology. (Natalka Kononenko)<br />Maybe this could be done in conjunction with History and Classics. (Frances Swyripa) Or HUCO or Library. (Natalka Kononenko)<br />Oral history at this stage is risky. Memories are jumbled. Parish archives are lost or sitting molding in someone’s basement. Chasing congregational records is not easy. There is little info on material history in church archives. Ukrainian newspapers are useful in this regard, esp. in early years – correspondences about churches. Artistic photography and paintings important, but also documentary archival photography. (Jars Balan)<br />Aerial photos – the Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village has some, that are relevant to their own buildings. Provincial govt has internships through Athabasca U, U of Calgary. (Stefan Sokolowski)<br />Ukrainian Village has three churches. They have very detailed reports about them (materials, etc.). Bobersky photographs in Oseredok, Winnipeg. Thinks Ukrainian halls should also be included. Some cemeteries are not related to churches. Not only the prairies but Ontario. Film on Saskatchewan grave maker on YouTube. (Peter Melnycky)<br />We should restrict to religious objects. (Frances Swyripa)<br />Bobersky photos are bizarrely coded and hardly described. U of A did some itinerary of the collection, but it’s not a very usable collection. She is now visiting churches in Alberta and is impressed by some of the archival improvement introduced by Metropolitan Lawrence. The context is very important – the spirituality. There is a large Lipinsky collection looking for a home. (Gloria Romaniuk)<br />UCAMA has black-and-white photos taken by Mr. Jopyk in the 1970s, also paintings by Pani Iwanets (already digitally photographed). Are digital methods safe for preservation? (Michelle Tracey)<br />Since we will be working with young people, students, we have to be aware of distinctions between faith, theology, spirituality. The latter – the personal connection – will interest and motivate students the most today. This was not addressed in their project, although they did have people interested in the institutional church, theology, belief. All of these aspects have to be addressed. More than “religion.” Sometimes there are halls where churches used to be. Winnipeg Tribune photos and descriptions are in U of M archives – valuable stuff there. (Stella Hryniuk)<br />Lots in the consistory archives of the Orthodox church in Winnipeg. Perhaps a proper archive could result from this project. (Sandy Sawchuk) UCAMA is trying to build a safe environment and would be a proper archive in the future. (Michelle Tracey)<br />The Russo-Orthodox are warm, but they will be suspicious. Who is asking? What will it be used for? She herself is connected with this church. She knows that people are not aware of the value of what they have. The project would be a learning experience for people. She has church archives in her own home! (Sylvia Chinery)<br />How should we go about making contact with the rural communities? (Frances Swyripa)<br />Even if we just identify what has been done, it will be a great thing. We must also identify who can help us with this project. We also have to identify the sources of funds. Alberta govt promises money for cultural projects – get them while they’re being offered. (Peter Savaryn)<br />Perhaps compile a list of methodologies to develop a template. Cooperation between projects in Manitoba was important – this project should do the same. And avoid duplication. Don’t redo Ed’s project where Ed’s doing it. Devolution important to management. (Brian Cherwick)<br />Should we put everything on line? (Frances Swyripa)<br />The community will like digital resources, genealogy people, historical background of family. If it’s digitized, it’s available all over. (Anne-Marie Decore)<br />And more.<br />1:30-2:30: Technical Aspects, Part 1<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span></p>
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Part 8: Manitoba
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 8 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br /></span>Stella Hryniuk<br />prepared text exists<br />How the book they wrote, Monuments of Faith, developed. In the 1980s there was not only the problem of abandonment, but also vandalism, security, disrepair. For Stella, the destruction by fire of her grandfather’s church was a real wake-up call. The three authors received a large grant from Manitoba to do the book (roughly 10,000 CAD in 1987). The government was interested in funding a project, but not through a faith-based group. The authors hired students and worked on the project for three years. There was a training process. Students usually stayed through two summers. They were passionate. About 2/3 of them are still involved in Ukrainian and Ukrainian Canadian historical projects of some sort to this day. (The students are now already 20 years older.) They identified 140 Ukrainian churches and 20 other East European churches. In the end they did full documentation of 40 churches. Slides of exterior, interior, objects, cemeteries; inventory forms; oral histories; popular histories and brochures; architectural plans (floor plans, elevations). Also, on the side, maps of the areas. Identified all the Winnipeg churches, but most of their churches were rural. They had to rely on local assistance to put up students, etc. Regular reports, updates, communication with govt.<br />Roman Yereniuk<br />slide presentation (analog slides from 1989)<br />We got separate funds for students [like STEP]. They did a second phase in 1993. There are about 40 inches of filing. 5000 slides. They had a system of how to do slides. Over 200 slides per church. They called themselves the Manitoba East European Heritage Society so that they could include Russo-Orthodox, etc. They have assisted parishes with their own parish histories later on. There was a need to break the ice originally in the communities. Did a slide presentation to the parish first to show the kind of work they do. They actually saved a church, the Church of the Resurrection in Dauphin. They recorded plashchanytsi, church books [some have marginal inscriptions], embroideries, church basements.<br />The slides have been well preserved, using the technology then available.<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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Part 7: Prairie Churches in Manitoba
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 7 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />An overview of what’s going on in Manitoba. Has provided a cd for each participant.<br />Manitoba did inventories, divided the province into survey districts (number), gave different kinds of building a code (letter). Examples of inventory forms. As they improved the forms, they made it easier for non-architects to use. Sanctuary will need standardized inventory forms, so these examples will be useful. They had a statistical<br />scoring method to find the most important buildings to preserve. [They used paper forms.] They also did individual building studies, area studies, studies of a particular kind. The inventory of Ukrainian churches was turned into a nice coffee table book by Stella Hryniuk.<br />There are lists of municipally and provincially designated heritage sites, including Ukrainian religious structures. EL made a definitive list of Ukrainian religious structures in Manitoba (about 500!).<br />The Manitoba Prairie Churches Initiative got money from Welch’s (50,000 USD). With matching and stuff, they started their project with 200,000 CAD. This is an NGO composed of three people. www.prairiechurches.ca. Online photo gallery organized by ethnicity. Reports also on line.<br />Tourism. EL is involved with tourism. They hold an annual fall field trip. This develops local experts. Self-guided driving tour.<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a><br /></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 6: Discussion
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 6 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br /></span>Interesting additional information on graveyards, crosses (much discussion of three-barred crosses). (Bohdan Hrynyshyn, Jars Balan, Andrij Hornjatkevyc, others) It is important to note that Ukrainians were next to other ethnic groups. We should consider graveyards where Ukrainians were in a minority. Ukrainians were also buried in largely Polish cemeteries. She cited some examples. We should look at these. (Stella Hryniuk) There are missing cemeteries. Saskatchewan Genealogical Society is trying to piece together all the cemeteries. Looking for volunteers to deal with ethnic cemeteries. (Ostap Skrypnyk) Plea to publicize more widely the kind of information presented at this session. (Oksana Ensslen) There are resources from the province for this kind of project. On p. 21 of Frances’ survey there are lists of churches according to three categories. Resources in all of these categories are eligible for preservation funding, and that includes funding for documentation. There are also ways to apply to get other churches put into these categories. Alberta Tourism etc. Good to partner with municipalities. (Matthew Francis) 10:30-11:30: Manitoba: A Case Study<br /><br /><span class="element-text"><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 5: Graveyards
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 5 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Churchyards and graveyards. Renewal – examples of renewed cemeteries. They often have interesting historical information reproduced (terminology, cross shape).<br />Physical decay. Wooden crosses are endangered.<br />Renewal and loss. When things are restored and destroy the old original, English inscriptions over Ukrainian originals, for example. Mistranslations – loss of meaning.<br />Continuity. An interesting example. Examples of preservation and enhancement.<br />Some grave markers give information on immigration history. Interesting information on last names.<br />Cement casts may be the next to go after wooden markers. They are painted white with texts in black – but they have to be repainted. Some who repaint do not know Ukrainian and garble the text.<br />Who were the craftsmen who made crosses and markers?<br />The kinds of crosses used tell their own story, markers of Bukovinians and Galicians, Catholics and Orthodox.<br /><br />[Further to John Sokolowski’s presentation and Ostap Skrypnyk’s comments about churches along the Yellowhead Highway please see attached video “For Harry”. It is a tribute to a maker of Ukrainian cemetery markers in Saskatchewan. In addition to the Ukrainian churches at Insinger, Saskatchewan the clip includes images of the St. Michael’s Ukrainian Orthodox church at Gardenton and the St. Vladimir’s Ukrainian Orthodox church currently located at the Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=501FiHsZobc<br /><br />-- Peter Melnycky]<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 3: A Geographer’s Perspective
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<span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 3 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Not really an architectural historian. But he has worked a bit on Ukrainian vernacular architecture on the prairies.<br />We should look at location, parish boundaries, site situation, spacing. Communication/transportation infrastructure Origin of builder/architect/iconographer. Site plan. GPS coordinates (hand-held devices available now rather cheaply). Multiple layers of data.<br />Prairies only? Why not North Dakota? Pembina? Caribou? Belfield? These are not the prairies in Canada, but part of the same system.<br />Other buildings not associated with religion.<br />Aerial photos, historical and new. High and low air oblique photos for selected churches. Using Google Earth.<br />Use recording format compatible with the Canadian Inventory of Historic Buildings (1971).<br />Record new as well as old.<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 4: Why Do This?
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<span style="font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;"></span> <span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 4 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />This is a political action by the Canadian Ukrainian community. Multicultural policy has faded. But an important part of our heritage were Ukrainian bloc settlements, Ukrainian areas of cities. The Ukrainian districts of cities are being dissolved. The monuments are markers that we existed and were a presence in Western Canada. These markers resist our erasure as a community. Help give us a sense of ourselves as unique and special, self-recognition.<br />It is getting harder and harder to justify the Ukrainian “group” to Ukrainian Canada. This project helps our recognition by others.<br />The distinctive Ukrainian churches on the prairies are attractive. People stop their cars to look at and investigate them. Consider that the French Canadians have a geographical place. Ukrainians need to have place too.<br />Also valuable as centers of religious, spiritual development. They have a power. We have to remember why these buildings were built in the first place.<br />Ukrainian Canadian Congress has not been a leader in heritage preservation, but it is interested in it. The heritage is endangered. People are throwing things out, valuable things, as they clean up.<br />Also there are all sorts of auxiliary activities and benefits that can come out of this project. This is a huge project.<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Transcription found in this PDF</a></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 2: What Has Been Done?
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<span style="font-size:14px;font-weight:bold;"></span> <span class="element-text">CIUS conference audio (Part 2 of 16)<br /><br />Outline of presentation:<br /><br />Overview of the preliminary survey. Organizing principles. There’s better coverage of Alberta. Please make additions and corrections to the list (following the format of the list). We want to compile a detailed master list of resources.<br />We already have several generations of data. They give snapshots of the churches at various times. The earliest data come from the early twentieth century. We need to define our goals to build upon the existing work. There have not been attempts to pull the knowledge together or to use the data for analysis. There has not been a systematic overview either. There have been a variety of formats for recording material.<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Outline found in this PDF</a></span>
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January 26, 2008
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Part 1: What Is to Be Done?
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CIUS conference audio (Part 1 of 16)<br /><br />John-Paul Himka opens the conference by outlining the goal of making sure that Ukrainian sacred culture on the prairies is well documented for future scholars and for future generations.<br /><br /><a href="https://cius-archives.ca/items/show/2172">Transcription found in this PDF</a>
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January 26, 2008
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